Sunday, 10 January 2016
QUIZ ANSWER # 121
Last Sunday I posted the above image.
Click on it to see a bigger version.
The question: Was this photo taken before or after 1950?
The answer: After 1950. The biggest clue is the Woolworth building (now B&M). It was constructed in 1955.
Scoring 1 win for correct answer: Dilys Bagnall, Richard & Ceri Swinney, occasional player Robert Scott, and The Great Gareth.
Gareth draws our attention to some interesting old pix of Rhyl taken from the air. They are on the website of the Royal Commission on Ancient and Historical Monuments in Wales. Here is an example showing railway station, town centre and pier:
Click on the following link to view them all:
http://www.coflein.gov.uk/en/site/33112/images/RHYL/
Thanks, Gareth!
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Thursday, 7 January 2016
FLASHBACK #14
This unposted card of East Parade Gardens on the prom is thought to be from late 1950s. The tall building on your left is Colet House which was then South Yorkshire Miner's Convalescent Home (now St. David's Residential Home).
Furthest left, the small white building was a place of refreshment known as the Tea House. According to Bill Ellis' book 'The Spirit Of Rhyl', a visitor there was the musician and composer Sir Edward German.
Sir Edward died in 1936 and the Tea House passed away in 1960s.
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CLWYD ALYN FACES FLAK
Towards the end of 2015 Denbighshire council decided to cut back on the element of housing benefit that relates to Careline, an emergency call service installed in the homes of elderly tenants of Pennaf/Clwyd Alyn and possibly other housing associations.
Clwyd Alyn, despite being one of the biggest sponges of public money in North Wales, rounded on its elderly tenants demanding that they should make up the difference by paying more than £110 a year.
In the ensuing row it came to light that Clwyd Alyn had been charging for Careline even in cases where tenants did not have a telephone landline on which Careline operates and could not access the service.
In the short term Clwyd Alyn should make refunds in respect of those people, and then reorganise its finances so as to avoid twisting the arms of its comparatively poor tenants (off whose backs the company has made a fortune over the years).
In the longer term the value of Careline needs to be re-assessed. Some tenants ignore the service and contact the emergency services directly believing it is quicker to do so - because a delay could be fatal.
Some years ago I collapsed with a painful kidney infection, called Careline and heard a voice at the other end say, "It's Sunday night. Can you wait 'til tomorrow and see your GP?"
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ALBERT GUBAY
Albert Gubay the Rhyl-born entrepreneur and mastermind behind the Kwik Save grocery shops and supermarkets, and Total Fitness keep fit centres, has passed away aged 87:
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/albert-gubay-who-founded-kwik-10696149
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SAT 8th SEP 2018 UPDATE: Regarding Clwyd Alyn's Careline charges, this week my struggle to have Careline "arrears" removed from my own rent account came to an end successfully thanks to assistance from the Ombudsman for Wales.
My argument with Clwyd Alyn about this matter took nearly two-and-a-half years.
Careline is now an optional service for the tenants that choose to pay for it, instead of being a compulsory expense for all.
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http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/albert-gubay-who-founded-kwik-10696149
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SAT 8th SEP 2018 UPDATE: Regarding Clwyd Alyn's Careline charges, this week my struggle to have Careline "arrears" removed from my own rent account came to an end successfully thanks to assistance from the Ombudsman for Wales.
My argument with Clwyd Alyn about this matter took nearly two-and-a-half years.
Careline is now an optional service for the tenants that choose to pay for it, instead of being a compulsory expense for all.
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Tuesday, 5 January 2016
FLASHBACK #13
We continue the Flashback series with this regenerated soccer photo. The following comments are from June Turner:
"The picture was taken outside the changing rooms in Coronation Gardens. It shows Rhyl Social Centre football team. My husband Roy started the Social Centre in 1948. It was for 18 to 25 year olds. Dr. Hadyn Williams the county council's Director of Education, gave Roy permission to use Ysgol Emmanuel for the Social Centre's meetings and dances.
“In the photo on far left is Bill Hughes the trainer. (He was sometimes known as 'Bill Sticks' aka Bill the Barber whose shop was in Vale Road, Rhyl – Ed.)
“Players standing in back row (left to right): Don’t know, Brian Fossick, Desmond Edie, Bill Jones the goalkeeper in dark sweater, and then Norman Jones who was the son of Councillor Norman Jones, Vale Road, and married Dorothy Pepperday. At the end is Clive Williams who worked for Roy in his flooring business.
“Of the players sitting in front row, 2nd from the right is Vernon (Curley) Williams who was Clive's brother.
“The Social Centre team played in the Dyserth League against such teams as Mostyn YMCA and Rhyl Labour Club. Roy played at half-back position but was unavailable on the day the photo was taken.”
My thanks to June and Roy Turner for all that information!
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WED 4th JAN 2017 UPDATE: Mike Jones, a Rhyl lad currently in Maes y Gog remembers the Turners as friends of his parents. Mike has sent in the following photo taken probably in 1951 or ’52 of a festive gathering of Rhyl Social Club football team:
Click on any photo to see a bigger version.
Mike Jones says, "Back row, the tall man second from left is my mum's brother, Noel Pepperday.
"Down a row and to the left, the man whose head seems to be below a lighting cable is, I think, Roy Turner. Far right by the window, holding the walking sticks is Bill (Sticks) Hughes.
"Sitting in front row, first five from left are: Tony & Doreen Jones, Clive Williams, and my parents Norman & Dorothy Jones (neƩ Pepperday)."
Mike Jones adds this snap taken in 1954 on the prom opposite West Parade. Mike says, “Shown left to right are my paternal grandfather T.N. (Norman) Jones who had been a Labour councillor and Chairman, and my mother Dorothy. That’s little me in the middle flanked by cousins Jane on your left and Adrienne on right, and then my Nain Charlotte (T.N.'s wife) and my dad Norman.”
Thanks, Mike!
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WED 4th JAN 2017 UPDATE: Mike Jones, a Rhyl lad currently in Maes y Gog remembers the Turners as friends of his parents. Mike has sent in the following photo taken probably in 1951 or ’52 of a festive gathering of Rhyl Social Club football team:
Click on any photo to see a bigger version.
Mike Jones says, "Back row, the tall man second from left is my mum's brother, Noel Pepperday.
"Down a row and to the left, the man whose head seems to be below a lighting cable is, I think, Roy Turner. Far right by the window, holding the walking sticks is Bill (Sticks) Hughes.
"Sitting in front row, first five from left are: Tony & Doreen Jones, Clive Williams, and my parents Norman & Dorothy Jones (neƩ Pepperday)."
Mike Jones adds this snap taken in 1954 on the prom opposite West Parade. Mike says, “Shown left to right are my paternal grandfather T.N. (Norman) Jones who had been a Labour councillor and Chairman, and my mother Dorothy. That’s little me in the middle flanked by cousins Jane on your left and Adrienne on right, and then my Nain Charlotte (T.N.'s wife) and my dad Norman.”
Thanks, Mike!
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Monday, 4 January 2016
HIGHER PURCHASE
As I have said before, Rhyl is a purpose-built resort. (This
would have been a daft place to build a town for any other reason.) Therefore
occasional waves of public investment in tourism are to be expected and
welcomed.
Towards the end of 2015, Denbighshire County Council
announced that a private company named Neptune Developments would create new things on our promenade. A Travelodge hotel was mentioned, a leisure complex, and
so on.
No private company in its right mind would invest huge sums of
its own money in Rhyl after the decades of Labour Party domination have
left the resort’s reputation in tatters. No, the deal must be a hybrid affair.
Neptune and Denbighshire have done business together before. Neptune was behind the refurbishment and extension of the present council offices in Ruthin, and Denbighshire paid off the company in instalments. Put simply, it was like a hire purchase agreement.
Neptune and Denbighshire have done business together before. Neptune was behind the refurbishment and extension of the present council offices in Ruthin, and Denbighshire paid off the company in instalments. Put simply, it was like a hire purchase agreement.
Before we natives get carried away with enthusiasm about the
proposed promenade works, we should be told about the financial implications for
the public purse in the long term – including maintenance costs.
And there is something odd about the timing of all this.
Welsh Government says that the counties of Denbighshire and
Conwy are to be merged. This would create a completely new authority that might
not like the Denbighshire-Neptune deal.
Is the purpose of the deal to complicate and even delay the merger plans? In the absence of financial and other background information, Rhyl Life can give Neptune's proposed works only a cautious welcome.
Is the purpose of the deal to complicate and even delay the merger plans? In the absence of financial and other background information, Rhyl Life can give Neptune's proposed works only a cautious welcome.
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Sunday, 3 January 2016
QUIZ QUESTION # 121
We are on the last leg of the quiz (Questions # 121 to # 160) and some players are suffering brain strain so let's have just one question per week for a while, starting with this . . .
The question: Was this photo taken before or after 1950?
Click on the picture to see a bigger version.
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You have until the end of Saturday 9th January 2016 to send your entry.
Second tries not accepted.
The result will be published on Sunday 10th Jan 2016 around Midday.
Don't worry if there is a delay. I am in the process of switching to a new Internet service provider.
Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk
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CATCHING UP
The photo below was taken on Saturday 12th December 2015 by Yours Truly. It was the opening day of a new cafe in White Rose Centre, High Street, Rhyl. The cafe is named Thyme Out and you would find it sandwiched (sorry!) between RhylCreate crafts/art shop and the Thomas Cook travel agency:
The proprietors of Thyme Out are Scott & Diane Bebbington; they live near Conwy and have previously operated a cafe in Llandudno. My pal Jill, a serious member of Rhyl's cafe society, showed early interest.
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Also in December a branch of Scrivens opticians arrived in High Street between W.H. Smith and the entrance to White Rose Centre, in the unit recently vacated by phones4U:
Inscribed in the stonework high above the Scrivens is Victoria Buildings 1821. This is suspected to be the site of (or close to the site of) one of Rhyl's first hotels: Burke's Hotel, proprietor Dominic Burke.
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Above: Did you know that we have 'kitesurfing' in Rhyl? In this sea sport you zip along on a surfboard while hanging on to a kite. Rhyl is ideal for this. The headquarters (school and club house) is at the side of the Sun Centre. More information here:
http://www.prokitesurfing.co.uk/
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During the Christmas/New Year break all 202 of last year's blog posts were checked. Some of these and many older posts were re-edited in some way with text or pictures replaced or added. I am still keen to track down factual errors in dates and in the spelling of names & places so do let me know if you spot any!
Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk
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