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Showing posts with label Z - LLANDUDNO. Show all posts

Sunday, 14 May 2017

QUIZ ANSWER # 186


On Friday 5th May 2017, I posted a slightly doctored version of this old photo of a Rhyl hotel.
The question: What stands in that location now?
The answer: Front Room & Late Lounge, 91 High Street 

Bar Blu

On that corner of High St and Kinmel St the chronology appears to be Dinorben Arms Hotel, followed by Alexandra Hotel (shown in old photo) which may have been the same building.
Then there was a rebuild in the form of Alexandra pub known confusingly to hospital staff as "The Alex". You can fill in the remainder.
[Off The Rails and Bar Blu were two names in use before Front Room.]

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Also posted was an edited version of this 1960s-80s postcard of North Wales pubs, only ONE of which is in Rhyl.
The question: Is it top left, top right, bottom left, bottom right, or centre?
The answer: top left - The Schooner aka Schooner Inn, West Parade.

Rhyl, Pensarn, Prestatyn, Llandudno

For indexing purposes the others are listed here:

The Yacht, 1 Marine Road, Pensarn near Abergele /
The Railway (formerly Offa's Tavern), High Street, Prestatyn /
Jolly Sailor, Ffordd Penrhwylfa, Prestatyn /
Steam Packet, 70 Mostyn Street, Llandudno.

Let me repeat last year's message from the UK's chief medical officers. Research shows any amount of alcohol can increase the risk of cancer. There is no such thing as a safe level of drinking the stuff.

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Sunday, 16 October 2016

QUIZ ANSWER # 159


Last Sunday I posted the above image of a Rhyl character circa 1900 on Foryd bridge, not the present one but the one before (a toll bridge 1861-1932). The question: Is she most likely to have been a Fisherwoman, Fortune teller, Nanny or Postwoman?
The answer: Fortune teller.
I lifted the image shamelessly from Philip Lloyd's excellent book 'Glorious Rhyl' published 2002.
Of the figure in question, Philip says: "The late Eric Foulkes who gave me this and many other lantern slides believed that she was part of Rhyl's c.1900 holiday 'scene', telling fortunes with the aid of a canary which selected cards in its beak."

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Also I posted the following aerial shot which had been taken in the 1920s and was blurred deliberately. The question: What is the name of the street marked by red dot?


The answer: High Street.
Here is the restored picture. The white car has just crossed the Alexandra Bridge aka Vale Road Bridge:

aerial view

The date I have been given for this is 1923 so the scene may have been part of the build-up to the ceremonial opening of the present coast road from Rhyl to Prestatyn.

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Scoring 1 win for the Fortune teller and/or 1 win for High Street: Dilys Bagnall 2, The Great Gareth 2, Sue Handley 1, Jane Shuttle 2, John E. Davies 1.

John Davies is a new player. He says, "I was very pleased that I got High Street right first time of looking.
"I am a Rhyl lad born and bred and our family home was at Morfa, 60 Warren Road, which my paternal grandparents purchased new in the 1920's. I am an only son with four younger sisters, Lesley, Margaret, Janet and Kathleen.
"The latter two still live in Rhyl and the other two live down south. You featured the Close where Janet lives on Rhyl Life a few months ago with a blanked street name - Eleri Close.
" I met my wife of almost 50 years in 1967 at The Schooner pub when she was holidaying with a friend in Towyn. We now live about 52 miles away in Warrington with our family.
"My grandfather was a steam locomotive driver and was on the rails for 49 years. He drove the Royal Train when George V and the present Queen and her sister Princess Margaret were with him on a visit to North Wales in the 1930s.
"He was the first driver to take the controls of the Welsh Dragon in 1951."

[The Welsh Dragon was a push-pull train that went back and forth between Rhyl and Llandudno in 1950s & '60s. - Ed.]


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MON 17th OCT 2016 UPDATE: John Davies writes, “In the newspaper cutting below, Miss Nan Williams in traditional Welsh costume shakes hands with the driver of Welsh Dragon holiday special, Mr. R.J. (Jack) Davies of Rhyl – my grandfather. The picture was taken at Rhyl station:

Llandudno

“When the train reached Llandudno on its first journey it was welcomed by radio comedian Cyril Fletcher and his wife Betty Estell.

L&NWR LNWR bus

“In the photo above, my grandfather is standing second from left (in black overcoat) with his four brothers. I don't know the year but I think the London & North Western Railway used this mode of transport in towns where there was no railway line. The town in this case may have been Mold but I am not certain.”

Further info welcome at: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk

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Wednesday, 31 August 2016

THE SINGING CARTOONIST

Cartoonist entertainer

Roy Lance (Gordon Roylance) and his cartoons from the Rhyl Leader newspaper have featured previously in this blog. Recently, via his grand-daughter Dawn Brown, I made contact with his daughter Antoinette known as Toni who has supplied the material in this post.

Roy was born in 1922 in Padgate near Warrington. He left school aged 15, went to work for The Warrington Guardian as a cub reporter and started to draw cartoons for the paper. This developed into an act and he was known locally as ‘The Boy Wonder Singing Cartoonist’. With the money he earned he put himself through art school.

Cartoonist entertainer

Roy and his wife Irene (née Thompson) met as young teens – she was also from Warrington. During World War 2 Roy was based at RAF Cosford. He wasn’t able to fly because of his colour blindness so he did art work at the base and was put in charge of entertainment. Irene was a dancer and choreographer. The couple married after the war ended.

Here is Roy (sporting a fashionable but temporary moustache) with Irene in 1950:
Cartoonist entertainer, Irene Thompson

Toni says, “They had their honeymoon in a bungalow at Sandy Cove in Kinmel Bay, and liked the area so much they subsequently bought a bungalow in Foryd Road, which is where I was born, and in 1961 they had a house built on a plot of land further up the road in Moelwyn Avenue North where they lived until my dad died in 2006.”

In addition to doing cartoons and art work, Roy became a variety artist who did summer seasons and pantomimes in many places. Toni says, “He was a great comedian. He did a wonderful Charlie Chaplin impersonation and sang too as he drew his cartoons on stage.”

Cartoonist entertainer

In Rhyl, Roy did several summer seasons at the Coliseum on the prom (before and after it was roofed) and several more in 1960s at Derbyshire Miners’ camp in Marsh Road, sometimes working evenings at the Robin Hood camp as well.

As a versatile performer he was a good choice for parts in pantomimes – including Dame.
Pantomime dame

Roy spent two years as the resident comedian/compère at The Cabaret Club in Manchester, and in the late 60s he did regular summer variety shows in Llandudno where he was very popular:


Over the decades, Roy’s other venues for summer seasons and pantos included Bridlington, Cleveleys, Filey, Morecambe, New Brighton, Pwlleli, Scarborough, St. Anne’s-on-the-Sea, Swinton near Manchester, Westcliff-on-Sea and Whitby, to name just a few.

Toni says, “He had many friends in show business, working with many of them over the years - people such as Bruce Forsyth, Frankie Howerd and Ken Dodd. When Morecambe and Wise made their only Rhyl appearance in the mid ‘60s my Dad compèred the show.”

Cartoonist entertainer

So there he is. The late, great Roy Lance – cartoonist, caricaturist, singer, impressionist, comedian, joke writer, compère, performer and producer. Thanks for the information Toni, I was wondering about Roy and I’m much the wiser now.

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The following names are added here for indexing purposes:
Robinson Cleaver, Clive Stock, Norma Hughes, Willie Wyse, The Mintings, Roy Minting, Andrea Wardale, Paul Leonard, Vince Rita Starr, Bernadette Corlett, Lesley Anne Riding, Jimmy Webster, Albert Tinkler, Brian Elliot.

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MON 16th JUL 2018 UPDATE: Recently auctioned on Internet was a programme for the Morecambe and Wise appearance at Rhyl Pavilion.
Brian Pendleton told me that he was there that night and the theatre was only half full even though M&W had a TV series at the time.
On the bill were Fred & Audrey Atkins (ventriloquism), Burden and Moran (magic) and the Petter Sisters about whom I can find no info.
Roy Lance is listed as "our resident compere" and certainly earned his money that night – he trod the boards four times.
The auction item failed to fetch much more than £20, perhaps because of the dodgy-looking signature and the fact that Morecambe is spelled wrongly throughout.




Click on the image to see a bigger version.

Ernie Morcambe and Eric Wise, eh? I wonder if that double blooper was mentioned in their act that night – or in Roy's!

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Sunday, 19 June 2016

QUIZ ANSWER # 142


Last Sunday I posted the above Rhyl streets photographed this year. Each has a place name blanked out.

The question: What are the missing names?
The answer: Bryntirion Avenue (TOP) and Victoria Avenue.
The Bryntirion pic is by Yours Truly; the Victoria is by Fred Burns.

Also I posted a couple of old photos NOT taken in Rhyl. The question: Where were they taken?

The answer: Llandudno and Dyserth.
Here are the images in full:


Above is the Llandudno picture: Open-top tram No.22 on the Llandudno and Colwyn Bay Electric Railway which operated between Llandudno and Rhos-on-Sea from 1907 and extended to Colwyn Bay in 1908. The service closed in 1956.
(There was a plan for a Rhyl to Prestatyn tramway that never materialised. You could fill a book with the things Rhyl nearly had.)

Below is the Dyserth picture with its caption restored. I am almost certain this would be pre-WW2: 


Scoring 1 win for the pair of Rhyl streets and/or 1 win for the Llandudno & Dyserth pictures:
Dilys Bagnall 2, The Great Gareth 2, Jane Shuttle 2, Sue Handley 1.
(Sue sent in her answer while holidaying on the Isle of Bute. I call that dedication!)

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NOW WE KNOW
A post on Thursday 19th May 2016 titled 'Return To Val's' included an advertising card for Grosvenor Saddlery Works and I wondered where that was. The following advert from circa 1905 provides the answer: It was at 7 Kinmel Street and the business belonged to R.E. Owens:


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SAT 15th JUL 2017 UPDATE: Speaking of Llandudno and tram, here is a composition by G.S. 'Sid' Cooper, transport artist (b.1935, d.1998).


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Tuesday, 17 November 2015

MR. PICKARD IS OUT


From his base in Rhyl, photographer Rae Pickard visited frequently nearby towns and villages in search of good marketable shots; he understood that a lot of Rhyl's appeal lay in its surrounding countryside.

The following pictures of Denbigh Castle and Penrhyn near Llandudno are random examples. The latter is thought to be circa 1920:


Llandudno

Click on any picture to see a bigger version.


This is a photo of High Street, Newmarket (Trelawnyd near Dyserth) on a card posted in 1927.

Of the two below taken in Dyserth, the one of the waterfall is circa 1915; the interior shot of the New Inn Dyserth is remarkable for detail:



The following is thought to be a Rae Pickard even though not signed. It is circa 1912 at what looks like a ploughing contest. All the usual Pickardian hallmarks of quality are evident in this:

horses ploughing contest

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MON 5th DEC 2016 UPDATE: A faded Pickard card postmarked 1912.


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FRI 3rd FEB 2017 UPDATE: Here is another Pickard of Newmarket (Trelawnyd) followed by his take on Highbury Avenue, Prestatyn.
The third pic is Maesydon in Llanddulas near Abergele, on a card postmarked 1918.



Abergele

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6720. Additional image added in July 2020:


Rae Pickard's take on Llanrhaeadr Hall (he didn't quite get the spelling right). The hall still exists. It is near Denbigh, a care home now.

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Tuesday, 10 November 2015

PETER ADAMS' PIX


Recently through the good offices of my pal Diane Heirene I visited Val Adams of Epworth Road to look through albums of pictures collected by her late husband Peter.

Peter Adams was a Londoner and a big fan of Rhyl and the town’s history. Here are just a few examples of what I found among his pix:


Above: George Hotel on corner of Queen Street and Sussex Street. I would date this image as circa 1905 and it may well commemorate a renovation; The George existed further back in time.

[The publican's name if given as F.P. Arthur. I wonder if that could be the Frank Arthur whose newsagents shop carried the name for many decades and eventually became High Street News.]

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The George can be seen in the background of the following shot of a cart belonging to Williams & Co. bakers and grocers of No.2 Queen Street. Funny how horses always look elegant even when standing at ease.

horse cart

Click on any picture to see a bigger version.

On your right in the horse-and-cart picture is the furniture store Rhydwen Jones & Davies whose main branch was in Llandudno; also the company had a store in Colwyn Bay.

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A later period piece is this shot of a delivery van belonging to Roberts Queen Street bakery - same premises as above? The van looks decked out for a May Day parade:

May Day

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Now for for a Royal discovery. Cinema Royal, opened in 1920, was Rhyl's first purpose-built cinema (as distinct from existing buildings converted to cinema use). Pictures of Cinema Royal are not plentiful - I have never seen this one before:

High Street

Here is a detail from the above:


We are looking at the corner of High Street and East Parade some time after 1939 when the cinema closed, and before 1954 when the building was demolished to make way for Woolworths (now B&M).

At that time Cinema Royal was owned by Rhyl Entertainments Ltd; hence the posters for two of their other businesses: Queens Theatre and Plaza Cinema. Interesting to see traces of an old sign for a previous incarnation of F.W. Woolworth & Co.

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The late Peter Adams who collected these photos was a volunteer on Rhyl Lifeboat. Paul Frost MBE, who is the present Deputy 2nd Coxswain and Lifeboat Press Officer says, "Peter was my mentor when I started with the lifeboat in 1968, and I owe all my skills to Peter with regard to the RNLI. We went shrimping together for many years."

Peter lives on through his albums. It was a very interesting afternoon's visit. My thanks to his widow Val for her hospitality. After I left she found a couple of albums I had not seen, so I would hope to make a return visit in due course.

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These references are added here for indexing purposes: Nectar tea, Queen Street cycle shop, Golden Crust bread, bread for energy, Ashalls fashion corner.

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Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk

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Thursday, 17 September 2015

THEM AND US


Rhyl and Llandudno, being English towns built in Wales, have always been a little more inclined to fuss over the English royal family than some Welsh inland towns are.

The real test of unity within the present day United Kingdom may come after the forthcoming referendum on whether to stay in the European Union or come out.

Scotland and Wales may vote to stay in, and if England tries to drag us all out there might be a constitutional crisis. Already there have been informal talks between the Scottish and Welsh governments on this point.

If necessary, Wales could switch its allegiance away from England and form an alliance with Scotland and - in the process - adopt the fairer social framework and more logical legal system of Scotland.

Whether you believe that would be a good thing or a bad thing, at least it must be possible because the British Constitution as it exists today has never been set down in law.

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SUBMERGED FOREST

It is a matter of record that there is a forest under the sea on the eastern side of Rhyl. Recently the following lecture slide or magic lantern slide came up for sale on Internet. The item is undated and bears the name H.W. West:


Readers who think I might dive in with my camera for some close-ups of the submerged forest for posterity are mistaken. Further info about the phenomenon or about H.W. West would be welcome, though.


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FATHER FRANCIS

A reader has suggested that Rhyl Life should include Father Francis Maple of Pantasaph Friary, singing and knitting for the poor. I do agree but have no picture of him taken in Rhyl. Has anybody got one?

Colin Jones / email: rhyl.colin.jones@live.co.uk

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Thursday, 27 August 2015

RHYL FOR A START

book booklet

Published this year and definitely worth a fiver is the slim paperback titled ‘A Victorian Tour of North Wales: Rhyl to Llandudno’.

The author Andrew Gill says, “This booklet reproduces relevant parts of Black’s Guide, published in 1897, and thirty five photographs, most of which were taken between 1880 and 1920, owned by the Keasbury-Gordon Photograph Archive.”

The text describes Rhyl as the Margate of North Wales and refers to our broad sands and safe bathing and remarkably favourable winter climate. The description of Rhyl includes a reference to the unbeautiful Pavilion. That would have been the Grand Pavilion concert hall at the shore end of the pier.

The book refers to Rhyl having an Operetta House which I take to be Lyric Hall in Market Street. Lyric Hall became Central Hall where Mr. Cheetham had his Silvograph Cinema. The building is the row of shops between Wilkinsons and The Lorne. The 'Hall' part was upstairs.

The Rhyl chapter is not very long and there are only four old photos – fascinating nevertheless. From there we go to Rhuddlan, Dyserth, St. Asaph and other places in the Vale of Clwyd.

Next town to get a substantial share of the book is Colwyn Bay. The front cover photo of a fisherman and his friend was taken in Colwyn Bay.

Llandudno gets the biggest chapter and then there is a Victorian guide to the Welsh alphabet and a glossary of some Welsh terms. What’s more, the author has produced a companion volume titled ‘A Victorian Tour Of North Wales: Conwy to Caernarfon via Anglesey’.

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Mr. Gill has similar publications about other parts of UK. See this list:

Thursday, 6 August 2015

THE MAN TO BLAME


The man to blame for Rhyl is Emperor Napoleon 1, of France. His wars against other continental countries made Europe an unsafe destination for British tourists. 

The demand for more resorts in Britain grew accordingly. That was the main thrust behind the development of Rhyl and Llandudno - two new resorts that grew up more or less at same time. 

Napoleon's wars were over by 1815, but by then the township of Rhyl was getting on its feet and our first hotels appeared in the 1820s.

No Napoleon would have meant no Napoleonic wars, no demand for more resorts in Britain, no rise of Rhyl, no fall of Rhyl and therefore no aftermath of social problems in the town.

Now you know who to blame.

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Thursday, 18 June 2015

EVE IN WONDERLAND

Rhyl promenade

Eve Gilkes (was Eve Hubbard) writes, “During WW2 my family moved to Rhyl. We lived in 5 Knowles Avenue.
     “My brother Lynden Hubbard went to Pendyffryn House School. My elder sister Lynne went to Southlawn School in Brighton Road until I started at Christ Church school in Vaughan Street, then she came with me to Christ Church School.
     “The above photo of me 
was taken in 1941 on Rhyl seafront by a street photographer. They would take your photo without you asking; they just took it as you walked along, and then ask if you wanted it. My Mum must have been with me and bought it from him. 

Open Air Bathing Pool

"Mum used to take us to Marine Lake Fun Fair and Ffrith Beach for picnics, and to Prestatyn where we climbed the mountain and had picnics there too. We used to catch the bus. This was in the 1940's
     "In Rhyl the swimming baths on the prom were fantastic. American servicemen, G.I.s used to hang out there.The above photo was taken in 1942 at the baths.
     "I am kneeling in the centre with Lynden on your right of me and Wynne on left. Nearest to the camera is my younger sister Judy.
     "On right of the picture, looking at the camera, is Rita Booth. She was the daughter of our next door neighbour in Knowles Avenue.
     "Those hand knitted bathing costumes looked good whilst you were dry, but once wet in the pool became heavy and almost fell off with the weight of the water!"

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Randolph Turpin

Just for good measure Eve throws in the above snap taken in Llandudno on the Great Orme, outside Randy's Bar part-owned by champion boxer Randolph Turpin who was the licensee from 1952 to 1961.

Thanks for sharing family memories Eve, and thanks to Dilys Bagnall for the booklet from which the following images were taken:

Randolph Turpin

booklet

If you wish to read about Randy Turpin in Wikipedia please click here:

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SAT 15th JUL 2017 UPDATE: Origin of Randy's Bar - Telegraph Hotel, Gt. Orme's Head, Llandudno on a card postmarked 1910.


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Thursday, 4 June 2015

READ ALL ABOUT IT




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WED 21st JUN 2017 UPDATE: At the beginning of February 2017 part of Colwyn Bay pier collapsed, and at the end of that month a large section fell into the sea during a storm. The following pix are from drone footage by Lis Aerial Photography, published by Daily Post.

collapse damage

collapse damage

Now, the nearest pleasure pier to Rhyl is the one at Llandudno which remains fully functioning and almost as handsome as ever. Here is a Raphael Tuck postcard of the structure circa 1950 showing a steamship docking at the end.


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6720. Additional image added here in June 2020:


Adam Williams, owner of the pier at Llandudno and the Tir Prince complex in Towyn.

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